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Name: Russ Barrus
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Title: Building wiring engineer
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posted August 19, 2002 at 11:05 PM       Edit/Delete Message
Given that outlets near residential sinks require GFCI outlets, it logically follows that it is a good idea in a industrial setting, too. Would an duplex outlet feeding an chilled drinking water fountain need a GFCI or better to install a single receptacle ?

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Name: Geo Syder
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posted August 20, 2002 at 07:11 AM       Edit/Delete Message
check with manufacture first

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Name: Don Ganiere
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posted August 20, 2002 at 08:30 AM       Edit/Delete Message
The NEC does not require GFCI protection for a drinking fountain.
Don

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Name: David Newton
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posted August 20, 2002 at 03:43 PM       Edit/Delete Message
Russ -
here is some real world feed-back for your GFCI duplex idea -
People working in the facilities/maint. dept. are bored stiff with nothing to do around the place so they look forward to engineers calling for devices that are not needed and require additional work for the facilities dept. (GFCI are supposed to be tested monthly). Then when the GFCI does its 'nuisance' tripping (these drinking fountains have those little compressors built in) they get to reply to the 'no cold water' complaints...more? The contracted janitorial service uses those large industrial vacuum cleaners and they always plug into the drinking fountain duplex and blow the entire ciruit. Stick with a single recep. - otherwise the facilities dept. will be yanking them out and doing the job right after the fact.

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Name: Jeff Cook
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posted August 20, 2002 at 04:06 PM       Edit/Delete Message
Go Dave
you must work for a living

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Name: Russ Barrus
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Location: Indiana
Title: Building wiring engineer
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posted August 21, 2002 at 02:19 PM       Edit/Delete Message
Exactly what happened - compressor tripped GFI(s)... except the mandate came from safety manager, not the electrical engineer.

I expect replacing the duplex with a single outlet will create another problem. The janitor will need another extension cord to get to the next available outlet. Hmm, this outlet must be broken, I'll try another... Now the electrician is resetting OCPDs instead of GFIs. ...and tracking the dirt everywhere, too


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