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Grounding vs Bonding: 250.70 Grounding Electrode Conductor Termination Fitting |
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Need help for wrought iron bonding connectors within 5' of body water. Is there a website that can help? Thanks, Lance
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Mike, I understand the issue but, shouldn't the violation arrow be pointing to the conductor at the bolt portion of the clamp. Also, many times I see the 2 conductors are side-by-side on the opposite side of the bolt where the single conductor is supposedly to be. Would this be a violation as well? Let me know.
Reply from: Mike Culbreath
The violation on Figure 250-121 is that the acorn pressure connector is not listed for 2 conductors and that a separate fitting would be needed for the bonding jumper to the 2nd electrode. The graphic will be updated to reflect this point. Thanks for your input.
Mike Culbreath Mike Holt Enterprises Technical Illustrator
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mike if you loop a #4cu around a ground rod is this a violation also. Thank John ledger
Reply from: Mike Culbreath
The violation on Figure 250-121 is that the acorn pressure connector is not listed for 2 conductors and that a separate fitting would be needed for the bonding jumper to the 2nd electrode. The graphic will be updated to reflect this point. Thanks for your input.
Adding a #4cu around the ground rod is not required by the NEC but I don't think it is a violation. It would not qualify as a ufer ground (not encased in concrete) so it wouldn't need a #4cu grounding electrode conductor. In fact, the #4cu looped around the ground rod might even decrease the contact resistance.
Mike Culbreath Mike Holt Enterprises Technical Illustrator
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The narrative for the grounding does not match the picture. The picture indicates that "No more than one conductor can terminate on a single termination". The text of the notice indicates that multiple conductors can be terminated if the fitting/clamp is listed for multiple connections.
The pictures also notes that the termination of the left is a violation. It would only be a violation if the proper clamp was not used.
tom
Reply from: Mike Culbreath
You are correct. The violation on Figure 250-121 is that the acorn pressure connector is not listed for 2 conductors and that a separate fitting would be needed for the bonding jumper to the 2nd electrode. The graphic will be updated to reflect this point. Thanks for your input.
Mike Culbreath Mike Holt Enterprises Technical Illustrator
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I just want to be notified
Is there ever an occasion where multiple GEC's can be connected under a single acorn connector?
I inspected a condo building today with three separate meeters and disconnects...there was one ground rod with one Acorn and 3 GEC's connected to it.
Thanks
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Never, see 110.14(A) and 250.70.
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